Discussion:
DRAFT MR survey for tomorrow
Asaf Bartov
2011-03-24 18:02:38 UTC
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Please review the DRAFT form. Do tell me what to add/change/remove.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ

<https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ>
Thanks!

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Asaf Bartov
2011-03-24 18:39:06 UTC
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At SJ's suggestion, added open questions in a separate form (to maximize
respondents)

Draft Questionnaire - part 1 (multiple choice):
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ

Draft Questionnaire - part 2 (open questions):
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dFNScGszQWFVRnNWZHNZVE05RnA2UlE6MQ

PLEASE COMMENT.
Post by Asaf Bartov
Please review the DRAFT form. Do tell me what to add/change/remove.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ
<https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ>
Thanks!
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Lodewijk
2011-03-25 07:03:37 UTC
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Hi Asaf,

great work!

Forthe MC survey, could you please for the "if yes" question add two
radiobuttons with yes/no ? Then we know whether someone meant no, or just
was lazy.

You could possibly add links (opening in a new window?) to the strategywiki
to explain the terms you used. To make sure everybody has the same
understanding.

For the quality option, Option 4 should be Other?

The mailing list about movement roles would be announcement only I assume? I
would add that to be clear. I.e., no discussions. If they say yes, what
about asking their email address? Then we can immediately subscribe them.

I assume that the open questions Questionnair is not finished yet? The
questions are all identical :)

Thanks again for the good work, I like the MC one very much. Adding an
encouragement on the top that they can add extra options would probably
remove the need for the extra survey. KISS.

Best,

Lodewijk
Post by Asaf Bartov
At SJ's suggestion, added open questions in a separate form (to maximize
respondents)
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dFNScGszQWFVRnNWZHNZVE05RnA2UlE6MQ
PLEASE COMMENT.
Post by Asaf Bartov
Please review the DRAFT form. Do tell me what to add/change/remove.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ
<https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ>
Thanks!
Asaf
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Jon Huggett
2011-03-25 07:25:53 UTC
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Hi Asaf

+1 to Lodewijk's comments.

The links to strategy wiki is a great idea. Might we want to add in either the survey or the covering email a link to our page on meta?

One difference is that I see different questions when I look a survey 2 ... are there different version?

One minor point: I'm seeing some text in German saying "* Erforderlich" etc. Before sending it out, might it be possible to put everything into English?

Cheers

Jon

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Post by Lodewijk
Hi Asaf,
great work!
Forthe MC survey, could you please for the "if yes" question add two radiobuttons with yes/no ? Then we know whether someone meant no, or just was lazy.
You could possibly add links (opening in a new window?) to the strategywiki to explain the terms you used. To make sure everybody has the same understanding.
For the quality option, Option 4 should be Other?
The mailing list about movement roles would be announcement only I assume? I would add that to be clear. I.e., no discussions. If they say yes, what about asking their email address? Then we can immediately subscribe them.
I assume that the open questions Questionnair is not finished yet? The questions are all identical :)
Thanks again for the good work, I like the MC one very much. Adding an encouragement on the top that they can add extra options would probably remove the need for the extra survey. KISS.
Best,
Lodewijk
At SJ's suggestion, added open questions in a separate form (to maximize respondents)
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dFNScGszQWFVRnNWZHNZVE05RnA2UlE6MQ
PLEASE COMMENT.
Please review the DRAFT form. Do tell me what to add/change/remove.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ
Thanks!
Asaf
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Samuel Klein
2011-03-25 07:44:59 UTC
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I like this. Definitely worth posting to the chapters.

I'd like to post a similar version to the world linked from meta and
posted to foundation-l -- could these be tagged somehow as coming from
different sources? as a cloned version of the survey with
complementary data sets?
Post by Lodewijk
Hi Asaf
+1 to Lodewijk's comments.
The links to strategy wiki is a great idea.  Might we want to add in either
the survey or the covering email a link to our page on meta?
One difference is that I see different questions when I look a survey 2 ...
are there different version?
One minor point: I'm seeing some text in German saying "* Erforderlich" etc.
 Before sending it out, might it be possible to put everything into English?
Cheers
Jon
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Hi Asaf,
great work!
Forthe MC survey, could you please for the "if yes" question add two
radiobuttons with yes/no ? Then we know whether someone meant no, or just
was lazy.
You could possibly add links (opening in a new window?) to the strategywiki
to explain the terms you used. To make sure everybody has the same
understanding.
For the quality option, Option 4 should be Other?
The mailing list about movement roles would be announcement only I assume? I
would add that to be clear. I.e., no discussions. If they say yes, what
about asking their email address? Then we can immediately subscribe them.
I assume that the open questions Questionnair is not finished yet? The
questions are all identical :)
Thanks again for the good work, I like the MC one very much. Adding an
encouragement on the top that they can add extra options would probably
remove the need for the extra survey. KISS.
Best,
Lodewijk
Post by Lodewijk
At SJ's suggestion, added open questions in a separate form (to maximize respondents)
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dFNScGszQWFVRnNWZHNZVE05RnA2UlE6MQ
PLEASE COMMENT.
Please review the DRAFT form.  Do tell me what to add/change/remove.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ
Thanks!
    Asaf
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Asaf Bartov
2011-03-25 10:05:01 UTC
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Lodewijk: Done.

Jon: the German is just Google playing geographical-IP-based interface
tricks on you. I used no German in the form, ja?

SJ: creating a separate (identical) version of the two parts for the general
public is zero-effort, so sure.

Waiting for more comments from MR people, or for an explicit encouragement
to start spreading it among WMCON attendees.

Cheers,

Asaf
Post by Lodewijk
Hi Asaf,
great work!
Forthe MC survey, could you please for the "if yes" question add two
radiobuttons with yes/no ? Then we know whether someone meant no, or just
was lazy.
You could possibly add links (opening in a new window?) to the strategywiki
to explain the terms you used. To make sure everybody has the same
understanding.
For the quality option, Option 4 should be Other?
The mailing list about movement roles would be announcement only I assume?
I would add that to be clear. I.e., no discussions. If they say yes, what
about asking their email address? Then we can immediately subscribe them.
I assume that the open questions Questionnair is not finished yet? The
questions are all identical :)
Thanks again for the good work, I like the MC one very much. Adding an
encouragement on the top that they can add extra options would probably
remove the need for the extra survey. KISS.
Best,
Lodewijk
Post by Asaf Bartov
At SJ's suggestion, added open questions in a separate form (to maximize
respondents)
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dFNScGszQWFVRnNWZHNZVE05RnA2UlE6MQ
PLEASE COMMENT.
Post by Asaf Bartov
Please review the DRAFT form. Do tell me what to add/change/remove.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ
<https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ>
Thanks!
Asaf
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Alice Wiegand
2011-03-25 10:11:34 UTC
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Hi Asaf,
I am very impressed of the result and I am pretty sure that this doesn't
need to be overviewed until it is absolutely perfect. I cannont find any
mistakes oder difficulties and would like to see it spreaded out a early as
possible.

Viele GrÌße, Alice.

Am 25.03.2011 um 11:05 schrieb Asaf Bartov <asaf.bartov-***@public.gmane.org>:

Lodewijk: Done.

Jon: the German is just Google playing geographical-IP-based interface
tricks on you. I used no German in the form, ja?

SJ: creating a separate (identical) version of the two parts for the general
public is zero-effort, so sure.

Waiting for more comments from MR people, or for an explicit encouragement
to start spreading it among WMCON attendees.

Cheers,

Asaf
Post by Lodewijk
Hi Asaf,
great work!
Forthe MC survey, could you please for the "if yes" question add two
radiobuttons with yes/no ? Then we know whether someone meant no, or just
was lazy.
You could possibly add links (opening in a new window?) to the strategywiki
to explain the terms you used. To make sure everybody has the same
understanding.
For the quality option, Option 4 should be Other?
The mailing list about movement roles would be announcement only I assume?
I would add that to be clear. I.e., no discussions. If they say yes, what
about asking their email address? Then we can immediately subscribe them.
I assume that the open questions Questionnair is not finished yet? The
questions are all identical :)
Thanks again for the good work, I like the MC one very much. Adding an
encouragement on the top that they can add extra options would probably
remove the need for the extra survey. KISS.
Best,
Lodewijk
Post by Asaf Bartov
At SJ's suggestion, added open questions in a separate form (to maximize
respondents)
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dFNScGszQWFVRnNWZHNZVE05RnA2UlE6MQ
PLEASE COMMENT.
Post by Asaf Bartov
Please review the DRAFT form. Do tell me what to add/change/remove.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ
<https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ>
Thanks!
Asaf
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Lodewijk
2011-03-25 11:13:38 UTC
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Agreed, lets get it movementing!

Lodewijk
Post by Lodewijk
Hi Asaf,
I am very impressed of the result and I am pretty sure that this doesn't
need to be overviewed until it is absolutely perfect. I cannont find any
mistakes oder difficulties and would like to see it spreaded out a early as
possible.
Viele Grüße, Alice.
Lodewijk: Done.
Jon: the German is just Google playing geographical-IP-based interface
tricks on you. I used no German in the form, ja?
SJ: creating a separate (identical) version of the two parts for the
general public is zero-effort, so sure.
Waiting for more comments from MR people, or for an explicit encouragement
to start spreading it among WMCON attendees.
Cheers,
Asaf
Post by Lodewijk
Hi Asaf,
great work!
Forthe MC survey, could you please for the "if yes" question add two
radiobuttons with yes/no ? Then we know whether someone meant no, or just
was lazy.
You could possibly add links (opening in a new window?) to the
strategywiki to explain the terms you used. To make sure everybody has the
same understanding.
For the quality option, Option 4 should be Other?
The mailing list about movement roles would be announcement only I assume?
I would add that to be clear. I.e., no discussions. If they say yes, what
about asking their email address? Then we can immediately subscribe them.
I assume that the open questions Questionnair is not finished yet? The
questions are all identical :)
Thanks again for the good work, I like the MC one very much. Adding an
encouragement on the top that they can add extra options would probably
remove the need for the extra survey. KISS.
Best,
Lodewijk
Post by Asaf Bartov
At SJ's suggestion, added open questions in a separate form (to maximize
respondents)
<https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ>
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ
<https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dFNScGszQWFVRnNWZHNZVE05RnA2UlE6MQ>
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dFNScGszQWFVRnNWZHNZVE05RnA2UlE6MQ
PLEASE COMMENT.
Post by Asaf Bartov
Please review the DRAFT form. Do tell me what to add/change/remove.
<https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ>
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ
<https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ>
Thanks!
Asaf
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Austin Hair
2011-03-25 11:28:58 UTC
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All of the issues I might have had have already been addressed, so I
say go with it!

Austin
Post by Asaf Bartov
At SJ's suggestion, added open questions in a separate form (to maximize
respondents)
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dFNScGszQWFVRnNWZHNZVE05RnA2UlE6MQ
PLEASE COMMENT.
Please review the DRAFT form.  Do tell me what to add/change/remove.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ
Thanks!
    Asaf
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Arne Klempert
2011-03-25 13:56:25 UTC
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Post by Asaf Bartov
At SJ's suggestion, added open questions in a separate form (to maximize
respondents)
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dFNScGszQWFVRnNWZHNZVE05RnA2UlE6MQ
PLEASE COMMENT.
Great stuff! Thank you very much, Asaf any everybody who contributed to it.

Arne
Delphine Ménard
2011-03-25 11:28:23 UTC
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Asaf,

can you add that answers will be public?

I would really like to be able to put some of the thoughts on meta to
feed the dsicussion.

Thanks,

Delphine
Please review the DRAFT form.  Do tell me what to add/change/remove.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ
Thanks!
    Asaf
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Delphine Ménard
2011-03-25 11:34:07 UTC
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Sorry for being so late on this...

I'm actually thinking that making the field "organisation" obligatory
may keep some people from answering the survey, as they haven't had
time to "talk" about this with their chapter and probably won't want
to engage their chapter in this.

Possible ideas:
*not make that field obligatory
*add a "personal opinion" check box which allows people to give their
personal opinion
*make the name field obligatory and state that answers to this survey
engage the respondant and noone else.

Whatcha think?

Delphine
Post by Delphine Ménard
Asaf,
can you add that answers will be public?
I would really like to be able to put some of the thoughts on meta to
feed the dsicussion.
Thanks,
Delphine
Please review the DRAFT form.  Do tell me what to add/change/remove.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ
Thanks!
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Lodewijk
2011-03-25 11:36:28 UTC
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sounds fair enough. Either solution would work, although a personal opinion
box will most likely always be checked. I prefer not making it obligatory.

Lodewijk
Post by Delphine Ménard
Sorry for being so late on this...
I'm actually thinking that making the field "organisation" obligatory
may keep some people from answering the survey, as they haven't had
time to "talk" about this with their chapter and probably won't want
to engage their chapter in this.
*not make that field obligatory
*add a "personal opinion" check box which allows people to give their
personal opinion
*make the name field obligatory and state that answers to this survey
engage the respondant and noone else.
Whatcha think?
Delphine
Post by Delphine Ménard
Asaf,
can you add that answers will be public?
I would really like to be able to put some of the thoughts on meta to
feed the dsicussion.
Thanks,
Delphine
Post by Asaf Bartov
Please review the DRAFT form. Do tell me what to add/change/remove.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dHFGSEljVlBjUDlOdVZPWGV6TmRkaGc6MQ
Post by Delphine Ménard
Post by Asaf Bartov
Thanks!
Asaf
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Austin Hair
2011-03-25 15:23:42 UTC
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Post by Delphine Ménard
I'm actually thinking that making the field "organisation" obligatory
may keep some people from answering the survey, as they haven't had
time to "talk" about this with their chapter and probably won't want
to engage their chapter in this.
And, let's be fair, if they decline to give their name but do give
their affilitation, with two representatives per chapter it's not very
hard to narrow things down.

Austin

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